
POY vs. MOP
I’ve always heard that the Maxwell Award winner is often times the Heisman Trophy winner; therefore the theory is that the former is a predictor of the latter since the presentation of each award is seperated by merely a day and (I think) Heisman ballots have already been cast and counted by the time the Maxwell is awarded (confirmed – “The deadline for receipt of the (Heisman) ballots is 5:00 p.m., Wednesday, December 10, 2008.“). There’s a lot of punctuation at the end of that sentence, some of which may be wrong…anywho, let’s test this theory.
The Maxwell Football Club awarded their first Maxwell Award in 1937 and defines it as the award given to college football’s player of the year. The Downtown Athletic Club defines their award as one given to the most outstanding college football player and awarded their first Heisman Trophy in 1935.
Last night, Tim Tebow of Florida was awarded his second straight Maxwell Award. And tomorrow (Saturday), Tebow will be joining Sam Bradford of Oklahoma and Colt McCoy of Texas as the three invitees to the Downtown Athletic Club for presentation of the Heisman Memorial Trophy.
Hmmm; “player of the year” and “most outstanding player” should be one in the same, right? As I always say, when you don’t know enough information to make something up that’s beleivable to somebody that may or may not know any better, check the facts. Since there’s 70 years of overlap between the two awards, there’s plenty of data. Here’s the results:
Maxwell Winner = Heisman Winner:
34 / 70 = 48.6%
Maxwell Winner = Heisman Runner-up:
13 / 70 = 18.6%
Here’s the last 20 years of each award:
| MAXWELL AWARD | HEISMAN MEMORIAL TROPHY | |||
| Year | Winner | Year | Winner | Runner-Up |
| 1988 | Barry Sanders | 1988 | Barry Sanders | Rodney Peete |
| 1989 | Anthony Thompson | 1989 | Andre Ware | Anthony Thompson |
| 1990 | Ty Detmer | 1990 | Ty Detmer | Raghib Ismail |
| 1991 | Desmond Howard | 1991 | Desmond Howard | Casey Weldon |
| 1992 | Gino Torretta | 1992 | Gino Torretta | Marshall Faulk |
| 1993 | Charlie Ward | 1993 | Charlie Ward | Heath Shuler |
| 1994 | Kerry Collins | 1994 | Rashaan Salaam | Ki-Jana Carter |
| 1995 | Eddie George | 1995 | Eddie George | Tommie Frazier |
| 1996 | Danny Wuerffel | 1996 | Danny Wuerffel | Troy Davis |
| 1997 | Peyton Manning | 1997 | Charles Woodson | Peyton Manning |
| 1998 | Ricky Williams | 1998 | Ricky Williams | Michael Bishop |
| 1999 | Ron Dayne | 1999 | Ron Dayne | Joe Hamilton |
| 2000 | Drew Brees | 2000 | Chris Weinke | Josh Heupel |
| 2001 | Ken Dorsey | 2001 | Eric Crouch | Rex Grossman |
| 2002 | Larry Johnson | 2002 | Carson Palmer | Brad Banks |
| 2003 | Eli Manning | 2003 | Jason White | Larry Fitzgerald |
| 2004 | Jason White | 2004 | Matt Leinart | Adrian Peterson |
| 2005 | Vince Young | 2005 | Reggie Bush | Vince Young |
| 2006 | Brady Quinn | 2006 | Troy Smith | Darren McFadden |
| 2007 | Tim Tebow | 2007 | Tim Tebow | Darren McFadden |
| 2008 | Tim Tebow | 2008 | ???? | ???? |
As you can see, the “player of the year” is also either the “most outstanding player” or what I like to call the “second-most outstanding player” at a rate of only 67.1%.
So, what does this mean? It means that these awards agree that the “player of the year” is also the “most outstanding player” at a rate slightly less than every other year. Therefore, my conclusion is that since this alignment has happened once already for Tim Tebow, it will not happen again.
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still cannot figure out how Marshall Faulk, Peyton Manning, Ki-Jana Carter, and Rocket Ismail lost out on the Heisman. sparty(Quote)
updated the first paragraph for accuracy… mizerle06(Quote)
Bradford is your Heisman winner. Book it. gatortrey(Quote)
I will never watch another Heisman award show if he is. sparty(Quote)
There is no doubt in my mind, he won. gatortrey(Quote)
that’s because this stupid award picks guys with gaudy numbers.
they have been running the same offense since Stoops has been there. anyone can do it. See: Huepel, Josh, and White, Jason sparty(Quote)
anyone else find it odd that “player of the year” only described the “most or second-most outstanding player” 67% of the time? mizerle06(Quote)
no, because it is like everything else in college football, it just doesn’t make sense. sparty(Quote)
I think it coincides with the sometimes erratic NFL, MLB, and NBA voting for the MVP’s. mizerle06(Quote)
the problem with the pros is that they cannot decide if it is an MVP or and MOP award. sparty(Quote)
Clownsman trophy > Heisman trophy knightwhosaysni(Quote)
I like that run from 92-94 of pro success for heisman weiners sae(Quote)
94, PSU had the Maxwell Winner, and the Heisman runner-up, went 12-0 and still didn’t get a share of the NT. sparty(Quote)
92-94? You could push that back to ‘89 and be just as accurate. In fact, since Barry Sanders won it in ‘88, I would say the only other guy on here who had anything close to a successful NFL career is Eddie George. He’s no HoF guy, but no one else on here is even an All-Pro type. Ricky Williams might have had the best chance of all of these guys.
I think Troy Smight might have had a chance to be ok. He looked good in his 2 starts last year and was probably the favorite to be the starter in Baltimore this year. But, his tonsilitis that kept him out of training camp gave the job to Flacco, and I think he’s going to hold on to it for a while. natsfan74(Quote)
Crap — there goes my tOSU bias again, and I thought I was commenting on a stupid award.
I guess Charles Woodson has been pretty… crap, Michigan = B10 bias.
That Reggie Bush guy is something special….. natsfan74(Quote)
Charles Woodson has had a very successful pro career. he isn’t deion sanders or ronnie lott DB great. but has been very very good. sparty(Quote)
trey…you have to do something that transcends the gaem to win it as a sophmore….like tebow did last year….bradford will not win because he is a soph….
two in a row for tebow
oh…and good morning….two minute warning is up….put your pix in then come back here while i prepare happy hour…is pat gonna get his heisman post up? mikeychx(Quote)
Eddie! My fave…
Who the HELL is Gino Torretta!? If you won the Heisman and have to be goggled, you probably should not have won the Heisman, right!? Jen(Quote)
shhhh, that is a secret for tomorrow. sparty(Quote)
bradford wins tomorrow. the precedent has been set for a sophomore to be considered and bradford had gaudy #’s…therefore, he’s gonna win. mizerle06(Quote)
^that’d be googled, not “goggled”-unless he’s ugly too. Jen(Quote)
sorry, jen. I originall had the school alongside the players but deleted it. mizerle06(Quote)
Jen-he is the one that is used as an example when there are no real outstanding players. just give it to the best QB that year. sparty(Quote)
tebows gaudy numbers > bradfords big numbers
he would have to exceed tebow to win…which he didnt….i have looso arguments that trup here but i dont wanna give away the patphish post mikeychx(Quote)
natsfan, i tend to give Desmond a pass since he was our SB MVP sae(Quote)
Desmond was a great kick returner in the NFL. Just sucked as a WR. sparty(Quote)
Who won the S&F Heisman? gatortrey(Quote)
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH sparty(Quote)
and I think Salaam was Ricky Williams’s idol sae(Quote)
Happy Hour is Up Finally mikeychx(Quote)
Nice post mize fetch(Quote)
The Downtown Athletic Club no longer exists. The Heisman is now awarded in the Nokia Theatre in Times Square. I have no name(Quote)